I have been using the term Manure for a few years now and all this time I thought it was a terminology I had created.
This was brought to my attention by Scott the Red owner of Republic of Mancunia.
The term “ManUre” originated from chants about Duncan Edwards by West Brom fans following the Munich Air Disaster. “Duncan Edwards is manure, rotting in his grave, Man U are manure, rotting in their grave.”
I have done some Googling and the only references I find are from Manc Blogs, can someone please let me know if this is true?
If it is true than I have a huge apology to make.
Taking the high road.
-Antoine
antoine@empireofthekop.com
I looked around a bit and I can’t find anything saying that’s where it originated. A post on urban dictionary says it is simply derived from the Man U nickname. In any case, referencing the munich disaster is obviously not our intention when we use that nickname. It’s just banter, like them saying loserpool etc. I say don’t worry about it.
I’ve been told the same by a United fan friend, who tells me that ‘real fans’ don’t call the team Man U or Man Utd because of these chants. Personally, most of the fans I know who are more interested in the football than the history would use these terms widely themselves and wouldn’t have a clue about this. To be honest, I’ve only ever heard this from die hard fans and she knows this from Manchester United websites. I haven’t heard it from any bipartisan sources, but as far as I’m aware to a certain number of supporters the nickname can be seen as ignorant and highly offensive. Still, it would be unfair of anyone to suggest it was intended as malicious, seeing as the information is usually only spread around fan circles.
Never have used the term anyway. I’ve always just called them United.
Doesn’t the Kop Magazine (published by the same company as the Liverpool Echo) refer to United as this? I couldn’t see them using it if that was the true meaning behind it.
Personally… in Malaysia, manure is used with the thought it was MAN U added with RE.
Scum will also work with the M U in reverse to U M >> scUM.
I guess I will use Manwho from now on.
Interesting.
But we need to be focusing on the more important question: If Liverpool bleeds red, what does Manure bleed?
:)
i just call then shite
I’ve been checking out these forums for (for the time being I’ll refer to them as Manchester United instead of my usual Man U, although that is awful wordy) Manchester United fans and apparently it is a terrible thing to say. However, search Man U and the first things up are the team’s official website, indicating either they (the team) realize a great number of people are going to search using the term and have registered it, or most people searching the term end up at the United website. Also, the official website is called manutd.com so I can’t imagine that term is off limits.
Furthermore, I was able to find at least one instance in which Sky Sports, ESPN, and even the BBC all used the term Man U, so my guilt over that term has dissipated because with all of those high profile news agencies, someone would have gotten mad. I think Man U has simply entered into the realm of abbreviation, and if it ever was meant as an insult that connotation has faded.
However, as far as Manure goes, I agree with switching to Manwho. I hate Man U as much any other girl with any sense in her head, but I know how angry I would be if someone were using a term offensive to the dead, even if they weren’t aware of it. Kudos, Antoine, for handling this situation admirably.
Its quite simple really. Man Utd is acceptable. Man U isnt. The reasons are exactly those of the West Brom chants.
Paul you better tell your fans in the US, they all say Man U here.